Abe Bates is incompetent. He studders, talks in circles and his website is full of MERS crap that all courts in Utah have rejected - yet Bates still will take your 4, 500 hard earned dollars and wasted it. He is a joke, and everytime you go to the office he has fired 5-10 new people. Avoid this place as he doesnt doe anything but take your money, try to explain your case while studdering the whole time and confusing you more than when you arrived. He has only been out of law school one year but evidently one a big verdict against Wells Fargo which is going to be appealled.