HERE'S A REAL NUMBER FOR EMC. HIS NAME IS SAUD BEJTOVIC HE IS AN EXECUTIVE RESEARCH SPECIALIST (WHAT EVER THAT IS) 214-626-3521. AND HERE IS THE NUMBER TO THE EXECUTIVE OFFICES 800-695-7695 X 7377. OF COURSE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ANY BETTER THAN THE OTHERS I HAVE TALKED TO BUT WORK YOUR WAY UP THE COMPANY AND MAKE THEM WORK FOR THEIR BAILOUT MONEY!! GOOD LUCK... SHERRY