Bell Sympatico
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Bell Sympatico Reviews
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Rick L
August 1, 2009
Been Billed After Cancellation
If you are using their DSL (Slow as hell) internet connection you are in luck for robbery. Once for all the answer to who has a faster internet Bell or Rogers, the ANSWER IS ROGERS!!! Save yourself the headache of research, and their BS ads on TV. After returning my modem back to Bell after my Sympatico account was cancelled, I was been billed for 2 more month. Watch out for those crooks.
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2beaverpelts
December 11, 2008
Internet Speed Throttle Admitted
Hi All,
Below is an actual online chat conversation I had with a Bell Sympatico service rep tonight in regards to them throttling internet usage to its paying customers. They are regulating your speed that YOU paid for. I am by no means fully version in computer terminology etc, but I do know what I pay for...enjoy below...you can almost tell where the guys boss advises him on what to say.
Forward this to eveyone on Sympatico...(this chat was copy/pasted from their chat menu) - session ID and SCI changed to protect their employee's job.
System: Welcome Peter Session ID:360656
System: Connecting to server. Please wait...
System: Connection with server established. Please wait...
System: Adam (SCI-11639) has joined this session!
System: Connected with Adam (SCI-11639)
You: Adam,
Adam (SCI-11639): Hi Peter, welcome to Bell Internet Services, my name is Adam (SCI-11639). I see that you have questions regarding your network access, how may I assist you with this?
You: How do I get Bell to unthrottle my internet service that I am paying for?
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, I certainly help you with the information regarding Internet throttling.
You: Great! How do I get Bell to take me off it? I didn’t switch to Bell to get throttled.
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, Shall I take a minute. So that I can check your account details thoroughly.
You: Sure thing. I am on the 7 Mb plan but am getting throttled on P2P applications...didn't pay for that and being limited to well below my paid for 7 Mbs is an issue
Adam (SCI-11639): Okay. Let me check your account details.
You: Sure thing. Can you unthrottle my access? Appreciate the help
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, I will give you a clear cut idea why we are throttling the Internet usage.
Adam (SCI-11639): The reason Bell has a responsibility to maximize the ability for all customers to use and enjoy their Bell Internet service and a responsibility to deliver bandwidth fairly to its customers.
You: Sure thing, but it’s not "enhancing customer experience". Besides, I didn't pay to be restricted below what I paid for. Would anyone pay to have their maximum paid for be limited below that. Is that fair to its customers it brings on board? Can I be unthrottled? I just want what I paid for, especially since I use my internet during the peak throttled hours.
Adam (SCI-11639): P2P file sharing will take more bandwidth, In peak hours your Internet usage will be throttled. This is to ensure all the Bell customer receive the same performance on Internet usage.
You: If I pay for the 10Mb service program, will I be throttled there too?
Adam (SCI-11639): We do not throttle Internet usage, but Bell follows Internet Traffic management to provide fair service to all customers.
Adam (SCI-11639): This is not only for you. This was followed for each and every customers in Canada.
You: bell states that the 7 Mb service is for "Download high quality music files, stream video, or play games". I do online gaming and am finding my P2P being throttled.
You: But I am paying for 7 Mb...what about at 10Mb, what level do they realy get?
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, we do not support P2P file sharing.
You: How should I go about getting unthrottled? Please advise. Rogers had a much faster internet. Can I cancel service with Bell without penalty?
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, We are not throttling the speed. we do not support P2P file sharing. If you use P2P file sharing your Internet speed will be decreased. This not only with Bell, But all the ISP over Canada is following the same Internet traffic management.
Adam (SCI-11639): The slow speed is caused because you are using p2p file sharing.
You: Bell admitted to throttling. Please advise.
Adam (SCI-11639): Sorry Peter. We do not support p2p file sharing.
You: It's Ok...thanks though
Adam (SCI-11639): You are welcome.
Adam (SCI-11639): Is there anything else I can assist you ?
Adam (SCI-11639): Peter, not to hurry you. Are you still with me ?
You: Can you get me off the internet traffic management?
Adam (SCI-11639): Sorry, Peter. We are not throttling the Internet usage.
You: Have a good night.
Adam (SCI-11639): Same to you.
Adam (SCI-11639): Thank you for choosing Bell and have yourself a great day.
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June 3, 2008
Consumer rip-off!
Bell Sympatico sold me their Hi-Speed Internet Services a few years ago and I just found out that all along my residence location is not qualified for such services. Bell Sympatico had charged me for a service that they never provided from Day One. Yet...they refused to redress the problem by refunding me the amount overcharged. They only offer me the ridiculous solution to downgrade me service !
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May 30, 2008
I worked for Bell Sympatico
I just feel the need to tell people the truth about Bell Sympatico. I worked for Bell Sympatico as a "technical support" person. Let me tell you a few things about what I had to do to keep my job - my purpose was not so much to solve internet connection issues but rather to get money from customers. Cute things like "mistakenly" setting customers up for services they didn't want to subscribe to, but the worst was KNOWING what was wrong - mainly spyware related problems - and not being able to tell the customer the truth.
Why you ask?
Because they wanted us to convince their customers to subscribe to THEIR software - instead of the FREE software you can
download. Usually it was $5.95 a month each for antivirus, antispyware and so on. To get the free stuff (which works fine,
updates are free - its great!) just go to www.download.com and look on the right hand side for "MOST POPULAR SOFTWARE" - look for
"AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition",
"Ad-Aware 2008",
also do a search of this fine site for
"ZoneAlarm Firewall (Windows 2000/XP) 7.0.362" and "CCleaner 2.07.575" - this will give you great protection at no charge.
I remember how I cheated customers and betrayed their trust all in the name of keeping my job. I once convinced a customer that
the problems they were having were due to having Norton Antivirus installed on their computer. I told them that it was such an "aggressive" program that it was placing a stranglehold on their computer and that uninstalling this antivirus and
downloading Bell Sympatico's antivirus would resolve their problems - you see, Norton Antivirus won't allow the installation
of another antivirus program - so to do so one must uninstall the Norton Antivirus - LEAVING THE COMPUTER DEFENCELESS - and then the customer is to go online and download the Bell Sympatico antivirus - with no actual antivirus installed on the
computer. Guess what happened - when the customer finished the installation the computer had to restart for the installation
to complete. Only thing is... now the computer doesn't start. And I'm supposed to tell the customer that somehow it's their
fault!
I shudder to think of all the times I had to intentionally mislead customers - I wanted to work for Bell Canada - that
was my dream. So I did some shameful things in pursuit of that goal. I want you all to know the people who work at Bell
Sympatico are good caring people - it's just that the company they work for is bad.
I want to close this by saying how sorry I am for all the people I hurt while doing this job - I was deeply in debt and
desperately needed to keep working, otherwise I would have just walked out. I would also like to say that I would never, ever
work for Bell Canada now - the great respect I once had for that company is gone.
I would also like to pass this along - there are companies that offer FREE INTERNET - one such company is
National Capital Freenet - now, they do want you to pay - but if you explain that you can't afford it right now they will
help you out anyway. I went to them a few years ago and they gave me free internet for one year. Their website is
http://www.ncf.ca/
Good Luck and have a good life
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March 12, 2008
Money wrongfully taken from bank account!
March 12, 2008
To: W-5
Re: Bell Sympatico
In February or March of 2005 I canceled my simpatico service. My computer was not working and outdated, and I no longer needed Sympatico. I could not afford a new one at that time.
On September 26, 2007, I was checking my Bank Statements and noticed that Bell Sympatico had been taking out monthly payments out of my account. This had been going on since September 26, 2005. I called Bell and spoke with a rep by the name of Elisha. I explained what had been happening and she got permission from Supervisor, Nory #601963l who authorized that payment would be refunded to me. They advised me at this time that the amount that would be being sent to me would be $1, 400.37. I was told this would take 4 to 6 weeks. (This amount reflects monthly payments plus G.S.T taken from my account without my permission over the course of two years.) They also gave me a “ticket” number 81130551 regarding this refund. I expected the cheque to come in November or early December, 2007.
I did not receive the cheque. On January 2, 2008 I called again and spoke to another rep, by the name of Difei, employee #XG128. She advised me that it hadn’t been sent out yet and would put a rush on it and it should be arriving within two weeks. The confirmation number she gave me at that time was #83954107.
Again I waited. Nothing came. On February 11, 2008 I called again and spoke to a girl named Sheena who couldn’t seem to pull up my account so she transferred me to Audrey, who did manage to pull up my account. She told me the cheque was processed on January 2, 2008, but didn’t know where the cheque was at the time. She told me I would have to wait 6 to 8 weeks to get it. I said, “No”, that I have been waiting since September 26, 2007, for this cheque and it has never arrived and no one there seems to know where it is. (Plus, the fact that every time I have to call I get a different person who doesn’t know what is happening and they have to check on it and it just keeps going round and round with no cheque coming to me.) The confirmation number given to me by Audrey was #85229988. She said her supervisor, Vangie, would call me within 2 days to confirm that the cheque had gone out.
Again I waited. On February 21, 2008 I called again and spoke to Lewis (pronounced Louees). Again, he said he would have to check on it. Again, I said, “No, just get the cheque to me. I’m tired of this run around.” I told him I wanted to speak to Supervisor, Vangie, as he or she was supposed to call me by the 13th of February, to let me know where the cheque is. I was put on hold again, for a long period of time. Supervisor, Leo finally came on the line. His employee # was X9676. He said apparently the order for the cheque has been sent to their “Back Room” on September 26, 2007. He would call me back.
Leo did call me back a couple of times to let me know he was trying to get the cheque out to me but didn’t know much more. He also said he would find out where it was, make sure it was on it’s way and possibly send it by Purolator. He told me to wait two weeks and it would be here.
By March 11, 2008, I still have not received my refund cheque. I called again and spoke to a girl by the name of Rachel, employee #4599 at 4:35 p.m. She looked up my file; looked into Leo’s notes (she couldn’t find Leo), and said she will be checking on it. If they can’t find it, they will have to re-issue it and it may take another 3 weeks. I asked Rachel to call me by March 13, 2008, to let me know the situation. I know from past experience this will not happen.
I have had enough of this! I believe they are intentionally and purposefully trying to stall me off hoping I will forget about it as they do not want to refund me my money that they wrongfully took from my bank account.
I can’t let this drag on any longer. I have bills to pay and money is very low right now. I don’t know what to do as this could go on for another six months to a year or more. Is there anything that W5 may be able to do for me and also bring to light to other people what this huge Company is doing. I have Googled complaints regarding Bell and have found many other people with issues such as this one.
I cam be reached at the following numbers:
Thank you for your time!
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May 15, 2007
Beware - you might be overcharged!
If you use the BELL SYMPATICO SERVICE it is possible that you might be paying extra for services you are not receiving. Bell currently charges based on the transmission rate under 1megabit, 2.5megabit or 6megabit rates.
The problem is that they cannot guarantee the 6megabit service so most people paying for this service are only getting the 2.5megabit service and sometimes only 1.5megabit. You can verify if you are getting what you paid for by doing this simple test.
If you are using windows XP or VISTA. Click on START -> ALL PROGRAMS -> ACCESSORIES -> COMMAND PROMPT [XP] or RUN[VISTA]. At the command prompt, type the following: tracert google.com.
This command will show you the route through the internet that BELL is using to find GOOGLE. SAMPLE FROM AN ISP OTHER THAN BELL >
tracert google.com
Tracing route to google.com [64.233.187.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.254
2 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.194.64.1
3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 24.200.240.197
4 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms ia-piex-bb04-ge6-1-0.vtl.net
[216.113.122.17]
5 19 ms 16 ms 17 ms ia-piex-bb04-pos11-0-0-cpe082.vtl.net
[216.113.122.82]
6 18 ms 15 ms 18 ms sl-bb26-nyc-9-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.13.49]
7 17 ms 17 ms 27 ms sl-bb22-nyc-6-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.7.42]
8 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms sl-bb21-chi-3-0-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.102]
9 40 ms 53 ms 40 ms sl-bb20-chi-14-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.26.1]
10 50 ms 41 ms 41 ms sl-st20-chi-13-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.3]
11 44 ms 41 ms 43 ms 144.228.155.166
12 47 ms 41 ms 43 ms 216.239.48.154
13 50 ms 50 ms 49 ms 64.233.175.99
14 48 ms 49 ms 68 ms 216.239.49.45
15 51 ms 51 ms 49 ms jc-in-f99.google.com [64.233.187.99]
Trace complete.
The duration in ms (milleseconds) is how long it takes to get from your location to GOOGLE.
IF YOU SEE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING LINES.
9 * * * Request timed out.
you are being duped(replace this word with your own) by BELL.
SAMPLE FROM BELL
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms linksys.linksys [192.168.10.254]
2 49 ms 48 ms 48 ms 64.230.197.67
3 47 ms 49 ms 48 ms dis21-montreal02_Vlan104.net.bell.ca
[64.230.240.98]
4 49 ms 47 ms 49 ms
core4-montreal02-Gigabite4-1.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.107.53]
5 55 ms 55 ms 56 ms core1-newyork83_pos_4_0_0.net.bell.ca
[64.230.207.134]
6 55 ms 54 ms 55 ms bx4-newyork83_pos_2_0_0.net.bell.ca
[64.230.187.18]
7 55 ms 54 ms 55 ms nyc-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.1.33]
8 55 ms 56 ms 55 ms ewr-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.17.61]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 56 ms 55 ms 57 ms jfk-edge-20.inet.qwest.net [205.171.230.13]
11 55 ms 57 ms 55 ms 205.171.37.10
12 67 ms 70 ms 66 ms 72.14.233.113
13 67 ms 70 ms 70 ms 66.249.94.94
14 76 ms 71 ms 66 ms 66.249.94.50
15 67 ms * 67 ms eh-in-f99.google.com [72.14.207.99]
Trace complete.
Notice the difference from 49ms to 67ms in speed. You can get a rating of you speed at the following site.
http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
If you have any REQUEST TIMED OUT messages, call BELL and ask the to explain why it is happening. I've had to reduce my service rate to 1megabit in order to get a stable service from BELL but I'm being billed for the 6megabit rate.
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